All that has changed is that people have decided to invest in toilet paper inventory (I). ), price controls do not include precise and individualized figures but things like “no more than 10% over prices during the past three months” (look at the California penal code, which I quote from memory), or “prices in excess of prevailing market prices” (from Trump’s executive order, literally). https://www.wtoc.com/2020/03/25/georgia-pacific-ramps-up-production-amidst-coronavirus-concerns/. Dylan: I think I and Jon have answered most of your main points. Here’s what went wrong. Help me understand this with real world examples please. The first dose of a new approved drug costs somewhere north of a billion dollars. The sharp rise in sales is further evidence that householders are stockpiling as the infection continues to spread. My average cost is $15, but my marginal cost is $10, right? *I wont be saying “will”, that is too homo economicus for me, I consider the possibility that the drug company could be that freakin’ stupid. Back in the good old days when we had choices in these things, I walked an extra 15 minutes to go to a different store to pick up my preferred brand, when my store stopped carrying it. Thank you for the economic point. Prev NEXT . I work mostly with startups that can be expected to lose money for a number of years, and most will go out of business before they have revenue, let alone a profit. Instead of “at minimal marginal cost”, you probably want to say “at marginal cost=price”. Even if production lines of commercial toilet paper can be retooled, at a cost, to make a product better adapted to consumer demand, the packaging will also have to be modified. Of course, there is uncertainty in production (as in everything). It may not be a steep increase in marginal cost, but it is an increase nonetheless. But let the shortage worsens, and they will probably revert to solutions like that. I am pretty sure that P&G in Venezuela did not offer 4-ply, 0ne-inch-thick, pure-fiber, virgin-white toilet paper. Those companies that weren’t successful, the problem (at least from their perspective) was usually a lack of demand. Yes. The supply chain for toilet paper “is not built for dramatic shifts and seasonal demand changes,” said Scott Luton, the CEO and founder of Supply Chain Now, a digital media company. People are investing in inventory rather than spending on consumption. As for toilet paper, it is not the case that the virus is causing a mass wave of dysentery. If you have constantly idle capacity that can produce at the same marginal cost, you would probably look at export markets or to underserved markets in the US. On average, an American can be expected to … Their profit is maximized where p=mc at 60 units. This was a basic point, but one I got incorrect nonetheless. Ok, yeah. What you must mean is that a monopoly does not have a supply curve, but it does have a marginal cost curve (which is certainly raising in the short-run). . One of my favorite economics professor quotes from my undergrad days was something along the lines of “It’s a mystery why when you look at any single individual they behave in a way wholly irrational, yet when you take them all together you can model behavior as if they were all rational actors.”. To make the broad, sweeping claim you are doesn’t hold. When the price of a good changes, consumers' demand for that good changes. Maybe I’m messing up marginal cost and average cost, although I think I’ve got those pretty straight. In the long run, though, a firm will eventually shut down so long as P< Average Total Cost, Another way to put your main point, Jon, is that a competitive firm (which can only charge the market price, on which it has no influence) will not produce on the downward-sloping portion of its marginal cost curve because it would be maximizing losses instead of profits. The toilet paper bubble must eventually burst. The toilet tissue business is a textbook example of an ultraefficient “lean” industry. Because of this, the general trend is decreasing marginal costs as production ramps up, until it spikes because you need to build a new factory to increase production any further. Give the production or distribution to the army! *It’s also not necessarily correct that peoples re not consuming more toilet paper. The impulse to overbuy comes from the concern that the store will be closed or there won’t be enough, both of which are largely irrational. I think it is important to note that I’m not interested in a model of the overall market, but a model of a firm, and the firm should not be assumed to be at some kind of equilibrium. I’d say most successful jewelers we know produce pieces individually, even though they could reduce marginal costs by producing in batches. Not yet, anyway. That is clearly a monopolistic model. It is true this is likely just a temporary shock, but it still does not explain your claim here, or your original claim “Thus there is little incentive for firms to increase capacity because once the tp-mania wears off.”  Indeed, you yourself in this comment contradict yourself by saying there is incentive for firms to increase capacity (“toilet paper manufacturers ramp up production by hiring idled workers because of the increased demand”). Price can be greater than MC in a monopoly situation (though output would still be where mc = Mr, and thus the general point that you need an increase in price to induce more production still holds). If you are on the left-hand side of the MC curve, MC decreases with increased production. Dylan: You have just confirmed that most firms are in a competitive market. That’s because they are partially paying with inconvenience and queuing time. There is increasing marginal cost for the firm (the equipment being used to produce this new drug is now not being used to produce other drug, the warehousing and transportation is now being used to move this new drug rather than the other drug, etc). as it seemingly contradicts the commonplace, stylized fact that there are often increasing returns and economies of scale. “”People are requesting twice as much; we are making as much as we can,” said Patty Prats, spokeswoman at Georgia-Pacific’s Port Hudson plant near Zachary. Be careful here because with these variable labels, I think you’re about to slip into talking about GDP, which is irrelevant here. The standard supply-demand graph is all you need. She can make one ring in about an hour, or she can make 10 rings in an hour and a half. If he cannot sell a higher quantity, then the marginal cost is higher because he is foregoing other profit opportunities. Estimates from the Statista Consumer Market Outlook show that the United States leads the way when it comes to the use of toilet paper. Therefore, real consumption (C) of toilet paper has not changed. Well the article actually says reading it closer, “The company is shipping about 120 percent of its normal capacity right now” — kind’ve a nuance, right? This is why one shouldn’t blog before coffee. This simple economic model makes other predictions. Obviously, toilet paper is a different type of product. But still, the basic point is they’re jacking up their production to the point where they really can’t make much more at their existing facilities. That was incorrect of course. Perhaps it is better to focus just on accounting costs, so that I can understand if we’re on the same page on that at least, because I have trouble understanding both John’s point about demand being a cost, and Pierre’s that supply and demand are independent (since if that is the case, why would companies spend so much on marketing to increase demand?). The toilet paper and paper towel plant is working round-the-clock to meet customer demand” -same link as above, We can see the temporary positions being filled now: https://www.glassdoor.com/job-listing/manufacturing-laborer-temporary-georgia-pacific-JV_IC1155905_KO0,31_KE32,47.htm?jl=3527462796&ctt=1586819664764&srs=EI_JOBS, https://www.glassdoor.com/job-listing/shift-capability-leader-shift-production-supervisor-tissue-manufacturing-georgia-pacific-JV_IC1154274_KO0,72_KE73,88.htm?jl=3490826730&ctt=1586819772397&srs=EI_JOBS. I might be Florida Man now, but I’m not shimmying up a palm tree to find a palm frond to wipe my a–. Is there increasing marginal cost for the company to ramp up production? Their profit is maximized where p=mc at 60 units. Again, price is measured in dollars per gallon of gasoline and quantity supplied is measured in millions of gallons. Phil: Either you (like perhaps Dylan) assume a monopolistic market or else you are making a very basic error: confusing one firm on a competitive market and the market itself. That might be the case right now (although even there, I’m doubtful, since I don’t think either of us are all that great at optimizing for efficiency), but it certainly isn’t the moment she gets an order for 10 rings. Pierre is discussing a perfectly-competitive market. But yes, this is typically what you would find in a rest stop or a McDonalds bathroom….. The logistics has to change, which probably implies higher costs in the short-run. If the downward slope of the demand curve is steeper than the downward slope of the supply curve, then they can intersect on the left-hand arm of the supply(/marginal cost) curve. Meanwhile, what is the local grocer supposed to do? That’s your wholesale price. But that is still rationing; it is just Antoinettish rationing. Stores implemented strict purchase limits, but that didn't prevent complete sell-throughs. Basic Economics: Supply and Demand. The inefficient firms will drop out of the market. But they can shift production around, outsource, etc. When we’re describing real life, and not just an economic model, we need to always remember that part. I have written something similar in response to Dylan (see above). MC can be rising but as long as it remains below AC, you have economies of scale. No retooling to get there or recover from. I’ve got the choice to buy paper made of bamboo, or paper that is unbleached. They created something new, but couldn’t create enough demand for their new product or service to be financially viable. For example, if there is an intermediary between vendor and user (big retail), with a preference for diversified suppliers – that could reduce any producer’s ability to cut into other competitors’ market shares. Black markets will develop. 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